Where did I presume that? I was just saying that it's not "virtually" impossible if at least three people do it right here, on the forum (and many many others elsewhere).

Meds are the easiest way for people for whom they work well, without bothersome side effects. And sadly this group is not so large. For most it's gonna be lots of trade offs and is up to each person to figure out what is worth it for them. And according to PC... for 10% of BPers they don't work at all. There's no magic combo out there for them. Doesn't mean they are doomed though, imho...they just need to look elsewhere.

And I agree with Ultramar. Self-hatred is not psychosis (although there are quacks and pharma shills on the internet who will tell you low-self esteem is really psychosis (cause you believe in something that is not true) and should be treated by APs). But in reality... this is something you have to work on yourself and no med (especially the ones that have potential making you fat and stupid) will cure it. You have to learn to love yourself, flaws and all.