Well, well ladies, I didnt know there was a debate going on on the other side of the fence until I just read the last few posts. I dont have the energy to read every comment the opposing set has posted but the counter is wrong from the start... I pointed out that me dressed in coat and boots was leered at by the type of man that sees nipples as headlights and the rest of a lady is invisble. A man that will stare at anyone. Dear me another thread gone mad.