Watching the shows on TV I get the impression it takes 5+ years to get where one truly wants to be; takes a year to lose half the weight and then another couple to lose all one is going to lose is one keeps on the "program." Seems a long time to work at something if one hasn't worked at any other program that long. I wouldn't like to be "tied" to something like that that would be detrimental to me if I quit. Would make me "angry" being stuck, not even able to use denial if I needed it :-)