Thx - nice to know people are listening (reading)! I've seen situations like that with the families hanging on to whatever 'wrong' they have decided happened to them or their relatives. If the fling girl's whole fam is doing that, well as they say, "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree." These types of situations are usually so ridiculous it's like dealing with children! I know my husband's ex seems to thrive on the drama she creates.