I read in The Quiet Borderline that this type of patient will kinda latch on immediately. That's what I've always done, but at the same time I've held back. This t is the first time I've ever made it through that holding back, and I think it came after 5 years. Figure - the t is attaching thru fairly good stuff on their side, but we are digging thru a garbage dump on our side trying to find some solid ground - what do they expect??