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Old Nov 10, 2013, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by A Red Panda View Post
I haven't been in the middle of a depression while being in a relationship at the same time, but I will take a stab at answering anyway.

Yes, we realize that we're pushing people away and hurting them. And it makes us feel even worse. There's this odd mix of wanting to be honest with them and knowing that the way you feel is going to hurt them more, and wanting to pretend that things are fine even though you know they'll see through it and it means you're lying to them. Many of us who are depressed will feel like we are going to be abandoned and left alone and rejected anyway... especially when the depression intensifies... so even though that terrifies us, we'll retaliate and start to do it to ourselves. Sometimes it's pretty much impossible to believe that someone actually will stay around no matter what, and we are just waiting for them to have had enough and leave.

And those people who don't know us too well? Well, they never do get to know us well. Because we go out and we lie. It's easier to lie to strangers because they won't see through any of the BS. They won't have any expectations of us, and they won't question us about how we are behaving, and they won't be upset if they don't see us again and so we only have to pretend once. We don't worry about them rejecting us because we will be rejecting them at the end of the time out anyway. The only people who get to see the pain are the people that we care about and trust the most - because with those people, we're trying to not lie. We're trying to be honest.

We don't forget about other people, and we do realize that we're pulling away, and that it will make the other person lonely. However, sometimes we literally do not have the energy to go near someone, and will feel pressured too much to meet whatever the other person would normally expect of us. So we might withdraw in an attempt to alleviate that stress for ourself... but also because we don't want to upset and hurt that person even more... and yes, we understand how that doesn't make sense to other people.

But yes, we know what it does. And that hurts us even more than it does the other person, because we know that our brains are the cause of it, and we don't choose it and don't know how to get out of it all the time, and yet our brains spend all the time in the world convincing us of all sorts of horrible things.
what a beautiful post you wrote! so heartfelt and true.

I'm giving a couple of ideas to Lynhill, I'd love if Red Panda would comment on them, if you think them really helpful or not.

He may withdraw from you because you know him so well that you could push the wrong button, unkowingly, in the wrong moment and when he's weaker he barely can take care of ordinary things, he couldn't stand anything more.
Have you noticed how anything that comes from loved ones blesses us deeply, even when the other person didn't mean bad? Strangers cannot make us feel half as bad, that's why they are safer to handle when we are weaker.

It is a gift for him that you are there and you want to be there for him.
But you have to set boundaries, so that his sickness won't get to you, first, and that he doesn't get too deep in it.
For me, self-pity was a strong part of my illness and there is a kind of strange pleasure in letting ourselves drown into it. But it only makes things worse.
Discuss with him, when he's not so low, what are the safe things that you can do to cheer you up when he lets you down. Going out with girlfriends? Some shopping? a weekend in a lovely place with friends and without him?
Discuss it over and then decide. Whenever you do one of these things, remind him that he agreed to them.
This can be beneficial for both of you: for you, so that you don't suffer too much, but take active part in the good things of life and for him because your positive behavior will remember that you like the good things in life and that if he wants to be with you he can't let himself go too far.
Red Panda said very well that there is also some kind of unconscious defy: let me see if you really love me and you can stand this all. If you don't sit around with him, but go out and have fun, he'll have to think of a different strategy
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