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AgermanDude
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Default Nov 24, 2013 at 08:50 PM
 
Right it says I must have 3 posts or above to do that PM, and I am not going to spam the nice people of this forum just for that. So let's see if this can pass moderation:

Hi, I am a zoophile too but no mental health professional.

I have found your post on zoophilia by accident via a search engine. I made an account just to PM you, but - yeah, as said...

First of all, what is zoophilia? As people said in the thread, there is a continuum and many words go haywire, as even science ignores the topic a lot. But there's crazy catladies, there's people who simply substituted a human spouse with an animal spouse, there's people who just want the sex, there's abusers, there's people who kill animals b/c they'd prefer a human to kill, but that gives you time in jail. Then sideways from that there's furries, and ponyplayers etc. etc. etc. It is unfathomable much.

I'd say the best description for zoophilia is to want relationships with animals. - Adjusted; you'll hardly go to the movies with a mare, but still.

So if you were just turned on by the pornography on the internet, don't worry much. I would guess half of all men can wank to it in private, actually (and more women than will ever admit).

If you think you are a zoophile as in you would like relations with animals, I have some suggestions.

The first is: Don't tell anyone IRL. The potential for disaster is sadly too big. Not even your relatives. There have been cases where goodminded people called in some help then for their children, who were carted off by 'helpful' professionals into mental institutions and similar for years. It's just the -how to say- complex interaction of taboo, confusion, people's gutfeelings, honest intention to help, mixed with "somehow that's like pedophilia" etc etc. Just don't tell anyone for now IRL. If you need coping strategies, then say you are a homosexual, but your family would cast you out if they knew. The advice given to such people is largely 1:1 transferable.

And the other thing is: In my view zoophilia is a real sexual orientation (personal opinion). If you full on have it, you can't be cured. Just as a heterosexual cannot be 'truely' turned into a homosexual, or vice versa. Can't be done. They can pretend, but not truely become the other.

An now for the part that worries me with moderation -but they used these words already up there, right-: Say (hypothetically) you would have consensual sex with your mare in private. Who got hurt? Any damage to anyone? Is that different or worse than artificial insemination or killing the animal for eating it? Because that's done, too, right?

I just wanted to suggest that maybe there isn't anything horrendously wrong with you, as a devil's advocate kind of. Maybe the abrahamitic religions kinda just instilled what they saw fit into society's conscious, and there we are today where we are.

Those are really just supposed to be prompts for some thinking. Sure, arguments of consent have been brought up already etc, but I suggest to analyze them, instead of taking it at face value on the spot in the spirit of debating the issue completely for you by yourself. To support this scrutiny of the other side, I wanted to suggest to have a look into zoophilesforum.com . It's a nice crowd there, and you can look up the discussions on consent e.g. and see which arguments make sense and which don't (there's the same infighting there as anywhere else, so it's not a completely biased proposition). Making this as your intro post should bring in some good advice from people who live with it.

All I can tell you: If you were born a zoophile, it may be a tremendous struggle to keep a 'normal family' all your life. And society will keep roasting issues under your nails. However, some people manage quite nicely. Some others implode or explode. Before that happens, as I said, go get some coping strategies. But I recommend not to reveal to anyone IRL that you are a zoophile from long experience. Tell your mother you were joking. And since I think a 'cure' would be a strenuous experience, don't take it lightly when you are painted into a corner. Have a look at the other side, see for yourself in which configuration you could life. E.g. as you said be one, suppress acting it out, but don't take the blame of unrelated bestial horse rippers onto you.

Sorry for the spelling mistakes and I am back to my own corner of the internet,
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