I understand the automatic thoughts thing... when we know that something is a certain way we just know it, it is hard to just reason it away! I had a sudden shift in my thinking about a year ago, so I know it can happen. I think it's important to work through the thoughts more than once. It's about pathways in the brain, and like other paths I guess it takes more than a single stroll to create a new path. At least that's how I imagine it works.

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