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Originally Posted by pink&grey
Hi all, I'm a member of the bipolar support group but am jumping over here hoping someone might be able to help me out. As background, and so you know I'm not jumping the gun, I have posed this to the bipolar group, the ADHD group and seen a pDoc. I still have no real understanding....
My son is 12. He's always had difficulties, was diagnosed with ADHD at 8 and has been on stimulants for about 3 years more or less. Always with a GP until recently when I took him to my psych (I have Bipolar disorder). I moved him to the psych because he still has emotional regulation problems even with the ADHD meds. He gets aggressive towards himself physically and verbally and is highly oppositional with adults. Anyway, he broke down about six months ago and told me he hears voices.... This would be the part where the ADHD and bipolar groups couldn't really help.... On his 2nd visit to pDoc he talked about the voices and pDoc prescribed risperdone. He hasn't even been on it for a week.
So, all that is the background for my questions. The voices didn't really get me concerned until I heard him answer some of the questions the pDoc asked. Turns out the voice tells him to do things towards his family that aren't real great if you know what I mean (I'm paranoid about putting this in print so don't want to quote). He also said he gets paranoid that strangers are out to hurt him. So, my question is around understanding the voice. He says the voice is his voice but does not come from within his head. Sometimes he says it's just out of his head, but sometimes it's not. ??? He says it's not thoughts, but a voice. The voice tells him negative things 100% of the time, and is strongest when he's very sad or very happy. Once he attacked the dog and later said that it was the voice egging him to do it. I don't think it was just an excuse....he wasn't even in trouble because I could see he did because he was suffering, if that makes sense. Anyway, I don't understand the voice. I can't make sense of I t and don't know what to do or how concerned to be. So far the risperdone hasn't fixed the voice.
Ok, basically I just rambled on and on. I hope that's ok here and I hope maybe someone can help me understand or maybe help me help him. I searched voices and this seemed to be the group whom gets that!
Thanks so much,
P&G
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So first kind of a bummer the risperidone hasn't kicked in yet...for me it took about a day to reduce to voices by like 80% and they got a lot quieter and therefore easier to ignore they tend to be really loud. So I heard two kinds of voices those inside my head and those that sounded like they were outside like real sounds...those were the scariest but they were distinct from thoughts...for me the inner ones actually came from like different areas in my brain when I pictured them but I've never heard of this in other people...basically voices were on the right vs my inner voice on the left, when I'm well my inner voice is central. But yeah it sounds like he's having full auditory hallucinations. The thing is if he does something like attack the dog in my opinion he still needs to be punished for that even if the voices "made" him do it. My voices kept telling me I needed to crush my pet bird so she would be reborn as a mini dragon and be able to filter my voices for me thus eliminating them. I never did this...I still had a moral code...it's just extra pressure...if he starts listening to the voices things could get bad. I'm not saying grounding or anything but take the time to explain that this behavior is unacceptable and that certain things must never be done there is no hurting or killing of anything. I have no idea why the voices tend to go toward that kind of high drama stuff but they do....mine were actually mostly pleasant telling me I was a shaman and could heal the world by correctly channeling energy and stuff...they mostly tried to help me be better but then they would slip in that weird stuff about killing my bird or myself or other people like it was perfectly normal and even expected.
I would say its a good idea to teach him coping mechanisms...there are methods to reduce the voices although I only ever got this to work when I was already medicated. Usually this is any sort of high engagement activity. Sometimes it's as simple as watching an awesome movie or listening to music but some people actually receive commands this way do you have to determine if that's a problem. What personally works for me is singing mostly because it takes my full concentration to remember the lyrics and adjust my voice. Also I picture things in my head in three dimensions with movement and that's complex enough to stop them. I know I posted some tips in this in the past possibly under stopping the voices but here is a link to get you started...
Self-Coping for Psychotic Symptoms (Voices & Delusions)
This is not to say he will be able to control them for sure but a lot of people can and it's a huge relief. Just the idea that they can be stopped even temporarily is amazing...they are so overwhelming because you cannot shut them off and they start to be correct about things so you believe them...if they are wrong they usually just say they were just testing you or joking or something...it's whatever you have in your own brain that you have to fight so that's makes it harder. My voices concentrated on things I didn't know for sure...did I believe in shamans, remote healing, psychic communication, well I thought it was possible but unlikely but when it actually happens you start to believe...other things they just ruled out because I already had firm beliefs about them...I initially thought the voices were being transmitted by microphone but after 2 weeks I realized any battery small enough to fit in my teeth or whether would be dead by now so I switched to being psychic and telepathic... I thought briefly the military was involved but realized they were simply too inept and did not have the technology to do this. Basically my set beliefs and moral code did not change but what I worried about was being tricked and about things for which I did not have the answer. For example is all killing wrong? Would killing one person to save the world be wrong...my brain absolutely preyed on these kind of moral exceptions although I was never really inclined to hurt anyone I always worried about the possibility I could be confused by that and tricked into something horrible. So I think having a firm rule set with little room for exceptions is good and less confusing when being assaulted by the voices. But that's just me...I am a bit of an exception in that I had a short psychosis of about 1.5 months and fully recovered(so far fingers crossed)The experience is a bit different for everyone. One final thing you might want to look up is a girl named January with childhood schizophrenia...her parents help her by keeping her busy all the time...it's the engagement thing that really helps distract you from the voices.