Main T is by phone--no eye contact.

CBT T, if we are in his office and not working on driving phobia, then it varies. Like many of you, lots of eye contact when he speaks, but…
when I talk, I might look at his hands-esp his rings, shoes, his crazy ties, or I will look at the shelf of child therapy stuff behind him--a bear, a blanket, toys, games etc.

What I really like is when I'm feeling too shy for eye contact he will lean into the direction of my gaze to "bring me back in". Or, he will lean closer to me.