You know the figure I see thrown about is 25% recovery but my understanding is that includes people with schizophreniform because the two are hard to separate, but also even e fuller Torrey says that you can treat that 25% with yellow jelly beans and they will get better. I'm not sure anyone is saying the meds are a cure....I think the consensus is they are a bandaid to wear while your brain heals itself and they may stop you from getting worse I mean if they block new delusions that's one less pathway getting wired into your brain that you'll have to fix. It's sort of like pain meds....they don't actually stop the source of the pain just the symptoms. Same with cold meds or a lot of drugs we use, just because they don't cure the disease doesn't mean you have to suffer the symptoms. I haven't seen any data at all suggesting the meds cure anything if fact there is more evidence to support the belief that they may hinder the process. Wunderinks study for one but also WHO data on people in 3rd world countries having a better chance of recovery than those in industrialized nations. Anyway you know I never had the full sz diagnosis but it was never ruled out either. But I agree with you I would love to hear from these people if they exist...I know Mark Vonnegut is a good example of one who had full sz recovered and then had one break later in life..he thought he was Jesus and then went on to become a doctor with Harvard med, he has some revisionist history though and rediagnosed himself as bipolar despite an official sz dx early on. Who know which it is he clearly had prolonged psychosis in the early book. John Nash for sure as well.