I do not categorize everyone with those needs all in the same boat. My view is that everyone on this planet manipulates their environment to get their needs met. Manipulation for me isn't all good or all bad. THere's degrees of it. Everyone does it, even "healthy" people.

I feel like you've chose to certain things i said out of context and somehow see it as a personal attack. I have no need to attack or judge anyone. And if you read what i did say, i said that the extreme few who are on a constant drama rollercoaster and who put others thru it with them need help to and that i feel sorry for people who try to get their needs met that way because they often end up alienating people who get compassion-fatigue and just can't do it anymore and distance themselves and the cycle of abandonment continues for that individual. I expressed some sympathy for it but i was also expressing the feelings it brings out in me because of my stuff. And like i said before, i'm allowed to feel like i don't want dragged into that just as that person with those difficulties deserve empathy and help... i'm just not the one to give it because it triggers me greatly. No one is wrong in this scenario.