Yes, I think most studies conclude a combo of meds and therapies but for many people the side effects are too intolerable. Or they just don't work.

When you try all those different programs I don't see it as a loss. With those you most likely have gained some knowledge from them or you wouldn't stay for two years (unless you are brainwashed). I think it is fine to move on when you have gotten what you can from those modalities. I guess you are kind of saying this.

Even if you feel it is most successfully controlled artificially I think there is lots Breggin can offer. I don't shy away from people I don't completely agree with if they have a good body of work. I make that distinction because there are a ton of self help books by people with no or limit credentials. My t told me something that makes sense about them. They are limited because most of it has to be based on the writer's personal experience or observation. They don't have the benefit of years of education and research and experience So then they tend to be formulaic and they don't work for everyone in the target audience.

I like people like Breggin and Brenė brown and Whitaker, for example, because they are using some sort of dense expertise to teach. Breggin is a practicing dr, researcher and activist. Brown is a 20 year shame researcher (phd). Whitaker who concentrates on history and social impacts (not treatment or practice) is a long time accomplished investigative reporter. One might not agree with everything but I think you can't NOT learn something different from all of them. Assuming you have a healthy open and critical mind

Btw, ingrained mh professionals are the most defensive and closed minded about these people. They won't even look at the website. I've been ostracized a few times about this. Very sad IMO. Luckily I have found two who are willing to read them.

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