This is not a relevant response. The claim is that for at least some women, when they are truly in love with someone, the orgasms happen either in the physical presence of the man they are in love with, or his presence in the fantasy life of the mind. Had you had a sample of such women who at the time of rape were 1. deeply in love with somebody, and, 2. they orgasmed during the rape, and, 3. ***importantly***, they didn't hold onto the image of their loved one in theie mind during rape, then such data would have been relevant, but without each and every of the bullet points present, that some women report orgasms during rape is irrelevant to my question - it neither proves nor disproves the claim my first H made. Note that he made the claim about true, genuine love, which is very rare, and for some people, never even happens in their lifetime, so, statistically, it follows that most raped women are not deeply in love at the time of rape.

Again, please wait because I will narrow down the issue considerably, and then irrelevant responses would not arise because the scope of my inquiry will be far clearer.