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Originally Posted by Michanne
You're saying that basinger's solution to rape is to consent to rape?
Is it understood a man can be made to ejaculate whether he wants to or not? The same is true for women.
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Basinger's solution is a helpful practical solution to reduce the risk in a dangerous situation. the risk associated with blowjobs are far, far smaller than the risks associated with forced PIV or, worse yet, forced PIA, and, when you are giving a blowjob, you are essentially in control of the situation which is not the case for PIV and PIA. So basinger's solution (and mine, which I conceived of way before her, when I found myself in a crisis situation) is to take the matter into your own mouth (I guess a hand, if acceptable, would be an even safer approach), and reduce the danger. It is a practical approach that works; I fully support what she is doing because practical solutions for crisis situations, and not politically correct statements, are what gets women out of grave danger. It does not mean that women should not be helped in other ways - emergency call booths on university campuses, fast response teams in university police departments, wide distribution of reports of sexual assault etc., are all very needed - these things are not mutually exclusive. What do you think is better - become a victim of a full-blown rape but know that you never gave consent, or get yourself out of a dangerous situation in ten minutes with a blowjob but not be able to say that you never gave consent? For me, it is a no-brainer - consent is a theoretical construct while getting an STI is a not a theoretical construct - it is a practical disaster.
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I do not understand the point about male ejaculations. I have had a lover (that one for whom I am the origin of the most important feeling in his life) not ejaculate, despite great big erections, because he would think of all the grief I had caused him. Granted, I was at that time asexual due to meds, so I was incapable of any sort of feeling. I imagine that had I been even a little bit involved - say, caressing him ever so gently or moaning just a bit - he would have ejaculated, but I was like an inanimate object. He has since moved in with his wife and plans to live with her, so I do not expect to have an opportunity to test whether he would ejaculate having sex with me as a woman and not an inanimate object incapable of feeling. I am not sure this is relevant to your question; please clarify. In general, female sexuality is considered a much more elusive subject than male sexuality, but that might not be true in reality. Note that a male needs to have an erection prior to having an ejaculation, and erections turn out to be fairly elusive as well, so with a male erection being not so reliable, male ejaculations are even less reliable, no?