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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope
Rape in war is a war crime. It's not considered acceptable and is illegal not to mention this is something that's been happening for hundreds of years. Date rape is new, but then I would argue the more violent type of rapes happened a lot more many years ago because rape wasn't really considered a crime, or a major crime to what it is now, at least in western society.
The "how not to be raped " is not about shaming the victim but just giving advice. No different to advice on how not to have your house robbed, how not to be a victim of a mugging. If no advice was given many women would be demanding of it.
Also lets be real here. The vast majority of men know rape is wrong. No different to stealing, physical assault or murder. They know it's wrong but unfortunately some men don't care due to lack of morality or their own issues against the world are stronger then their conscience.
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I doubt any person who has been rape would be grateful you told them well at least it is more of a crime while the perpetrators are being protected by the entire town. Or while they brag about the rape. Or having to continue to serve side by side because your commanding officers don't take it seriously assuming you are brave enough to report it. I believe the number is 70% that don't get reported. Or their name is posted on a website. (Reporters not necessary.) or they are slap on the wrist in court because they have such a "promising future". These things happen all the time.
Spend as much time teaching mean it is WRONG and I'll be happy to entertain "how not to be raped" but I am talking about advice such as how to dress as if that is permission to be raped. In case that wasn't clear... It isn't.
Knowing it is wrong and getting messages that permit it are contradictory but that is exactly what is happening. Men are capable of restraint. Date rape is control or insecurity and control. "Horny" and drunk really isn't a majority of these crimes. Did you read the reddit article? The men involved in these rapes express regret and admit that they did not think of these women as individuals. Men are individuals in their minds. Why aren't women? Theoretically they are dating to have a relationship, eventually. When, exactly, do they see women as people? This absolutely been growing as advertising has changed. I studied messages in advertising over 15 years ago. It was bad enough to talk about it but not nearly what it is today. Go ahead and look this up. I am sorry but if you think advertising and media doesn't have the power to change culture you are high.
"some men don't care due to lack of morality or their own issues against the world are stronger then their conscience."
This makes me think you are aware at some level but not willing to see the connection between media and increased date rape.
BTW, I watched the accused last night because it was on Netflix and we are discussing the topic. Sure, there have been changes but not so much since 1987. They myths and treatment of the victim is still there. It makes me sad people are unwilling to see this. If I am sounding harsh that would be why.
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