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Originally Posted by Michanne
I doubt any person who has been rape would be grateful you told them well at least it is more of a crime while the perpetrators are being protected by the entire town.
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I don't understand what you mean here
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Or while they brag about the rape. Or having to continue to serve side by side because your commanding officers don't take it seriously assuming you are brave enough to report it. I believe the number is 70% that don't get reported. Or their name is posted on a website. (Reporters not necessary.) or they are slap on the wrist in court because they have such a "promising future". These things happen all the time.
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Rapes don't get reported for a number of reasons. One the victim fears they won't be believed and perhaps shunned by their own family, another could be the victim feels ashamed. So many reasons.
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Spend as much time teaching mean it is WRONG and I'll be happy to entertain "how not to be raped" but I am talking about advice such as how to dress as if that is permission to be raped. In case that wasn't clear... It isn't.
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Well I'm not on about advice like this obviously.
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Knowing it is wrong and getting messages that permit it are contradictory but that is exactly what is happening. Men are capable of restraint. Date rape is control or insecurity and control. "Horny" and drunk really isn't a majority of these crimes.
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Date rape once again has numerous motivations. Sure it's a form of control to subdue the victim but the motivation for the rape could be many. Only the rapist themselves know their motives. Where are these messages saying it's okay to rape? Rapists are despised, to the extent that murderers are seen as higher up the prison hierachy.
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Did you read the reddit article? The men involved in these rapes express regret and admit that they did not think of these women as individuals. Men are individuals in their minds. Why aren't women? Theoretically they are dating to have a relationship, eventually. When, exactly, do they see women as people? This absolutely been growing as advertising has changed. I studied messages in advertising over 15 years ago. It was bad enough to talk about it but not nearly what it is today. Go ahead and look this up. I am sorry but if you think advertising and media doesn't have the power to change culture you are high.
"some men don't care due to lack of morality or their own issues against the world are stronger then their conscience."
This makes me think you are aware at some level but not willing to see the connection between media and increased date rape.
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I read the reddit article yes. I'm not sure about the men not seeing women as individuals, mostly I just saw a load of different excuses from these men rather then accept responsibility. You say the media is to do with increased rape, I would argue that the media is bringing more rape and child abuse to the public's attention. So we hear about it more so we think it's happening more. Before DNA profiling, TV and the internet existed, paedophiles and rapists did exist. They've existed for thousands of years and in the past they wouldn't have even been considered committing a criminal offence.
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BTW, I watched the accused last night because it was on Netflix and we are discussing the topic. Sure, there have been changes but not so much since 1987. They myths and treatment of the victim is still there. It makes me sad people are unwilling to see this. If I am sounding harsh that would be why.
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I agree the victim does get treated unfairly by the law.