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Old Mar 14, 2014, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by feralkittymom View Post
While it may be true that you overfocus on the leaving part of the equation, and that may be something to address psychologically, to jump from that to a literal afterlife is a leap of faith, not of therapy.

Your T is young and inexperienced and I would hope that her supervision is addressing this sort of boundary crossing.

Have you looked at any of the newer bereavement research? The widely accepted Kubler-Ross 5 stages approach provided a neat and tidy package, easily disseminated. But newer research shows grief is far more individual and far less linear than such a model suggests. Also, KR's study population was people dying, not others responding to death. So a lot of inconsistency and fuzzy applications have derived from and been ascribed to her work.

Newer research which has studied what those grieving actually experience, has found that more often people consciously keep ties with the dead. Not in a denial of death sort of way, but a conscious choosing to remember those lost as they lived: a maintained, internal, heart and mind and memory emotional "living" link. This isn't about faith, but about psychology. It doesn't prevent feelings of loss because the the lack of a tangible presence is always felt; but it does sustain an internal connection, and that can have many positive benefits. This is the choice my T, who has never been a strongly religious person, has made, and witnessing it, it seems very functional to me. A lot of strength and comfort, as well as a very deeply meaningful perception seems to come from this. I feel like I'm learning a lot that I hope I can embrace for myself after his death.

Thinking about you and your T makes me really happy that LCM just turned 36 this past Saturday. I can't handle the thought of her dying. I think you are so strong to be facing that.

Yes that is fine. A living memory is okay. I would have no problem if she said something like her memory and influence lives on within me. The problem I had was when I said I wished I had the 30 mins back to spend with her
T: "how do you think she feels about that half hour"
Me: "idk probably not a lot considering that she is dead"
T: "you have a tendency to see people as all here or all gone. How do you think she feels about you being so dismissive to her right now"
Me: "... nothing she's dead. She has no consciousness anymore"
T: "well I don't believe that. I believe she is watching you right now"
Me: "literally stop. She's not watching me partially because she is dead and I don't believe that is possible"
T: "well that's fine but..."

No no no. Listen to me. I don't believe that. Stop trying to convince me because you can't. Also why the **** would she be watching me? Wouldn't she have something more interesting to do than watch me laying in bed all day and crying in a pillow at night? Like idk maybe watching her real daughter? Staring down at me. I hope not. If I'm wrong and there is an afterlife, I sure as hell hope she isn't spending eternity, looking down on us and obsessing over the living. What an awful eternity to live. Or die. Idk.
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