I discovered my Ts experience was 'worse' than mine. I was glad he was honest about it because apparently the etiquette is not to disclose that but luckily he trusted me enough to put his cards on the table too. I'd of felt like a freak if he'd of denied what I was seeing with my own eyes. It's often a two way street and it's a shame there's so much kept under the carpet. It's a subject that deserves far more transparency and investigation. I'm also convinced that the boundary rules we use to protect therapists and clients are entirely insufficient if not inappropriate tools for dealing with the issue. Look at this forum the discussion of psychotherapy is almost entirely taken up by all sorts of problems with the therapist rather than psychotherapy itself. That speaks volumes in itself.