Thanks for the ideals. We have tried this type of discipline, however; they are more than willing to go without and scream for several hours to wear their parents down. The in-house counseling did not work but left without any advice on how to fix our 'up-side down' problem. We did try locking ourselves in our own bedroom, however; the door is now totally broken and not even closeable.
To make matters worse Social Services is now tell us to do as they say or face "Neglect" charges. Looks like a new chapter is about to start.
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