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Originally Posted by VenusHalley
I heard the stims work wonderfully for depression and that not just from people who are normally kinda pro-med, but also on Icarus forum of all the places (I think if Icarus people are excited about some drug than must be good... but then again, Icarus doesn't reject mind altering stuff per se, they rather have problem with it being pushed on people as cure).
I never taken pharma stimulants and I kinda don't wanna go that way, having addictive persnality. But I know guarana (a natural stimulant) lifts up my depression when I take it (it has all the side effects of stimulants as anxiety and insomnia though and I did sorta abuse it in the past, so I try not to reach for it too much).
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Oh I have no doubt that they work and that they work very quickly. I know from personal experience. Part of the problem is the short half life. You have to keep taking more and more. I am admittedly biased in this area because of my own experience with meth amphetamines.
My concern is not whether they work or not but whether the side effects risk are worth it. Psychosis being number one.
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But I know guarana (a natural stimulant) lifts up my depression when I take it (it has all the side effects of stimulants as anxiety and insomnia though and I did sorta abuse it in the past, so I try not to reach for it too much).
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Like you say just because it is natural or an herb does not mean much. It can be just as dangerous. You can also take ephedra (an herb) and see how that goes. I took that once after having been clean and sober for many years and I thought I had just done a line of meth.