That is part of the problem, for me, my thinking does not get checked out with the other person's thinking and I wander off into the weeds on my own. My T had me "free-associate" once and we were both lost within 30 seconds She quickly back-pedaled and we continued on with my meandering and her following and trying to give a "Don't step there!" warning, if she could. It took a really long time for me to learn from my meandering, so that I stayed on the "path" better and didn't get so muddy or run off to investigate what was behind that bush only to find it was a bear (non-Fuzzy variety :-) etc. It can be painful and difficult wandering in the swamp but one does eventually learn how to wander in the swamp effectively, if one lives through the process.

We grew up. Think about that. It is a success of sorts?