Yes, every so often I get the urge to reach out in an effort to find some help, beyond just my who sees me for about 10 minutes every 2 or 3 months. But realistically, I know there's no help out there. As you wrote, Sidestepper, do it yourself... shape up for ship out... Guess that's kind-of what makes PC so important. There's always a safe place for us here...