KD, I think you mis read me. I was meaning that I am being shuned for not doing things their way. I don't see that as bravery on their behalf nor honesty! Yes I agree there are many paths to enlightment but some seem particularly set up to shun any way but "THEIR way" and amongst the worse offenders I see the less bravery. This was my point.

Because I refuse to megre with a higher power I was told that am trying to get people to drink again. Duh? I listen to "them" share their journey but my take on things is squashed. I just see defence of a higher power going on and not self honesty to the degree I read here.