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Old May 09, 2014, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zinco14532323 View Post
I read the article. "psychotropics cause disease" is a pretty broad statement. Which psychotropic drug specifically? If you say Meth Amphetamine I will readily agree with you. Psyche Meds I can't argue because I really don't know. AP's and AAP's seem to be the worse but I don't know the evidence. SSRI's? SSNRI's? Benzo's? Are side effects considered disease?

Are You At Risk For Diabetes and Obesity? If you?ve taken or take psychiatric drugs the answer is YES ? Beyond Meds


Really??? Any psyche drug??? The article provides no evidence to back up that statement. All the related articles listed seem to talk about inflammation and stress. I didn't read all the related articles but none of the titles mention psyche drugs. Inflammation, stress, toxins, diet, prevention.

I don't think anyone would deny that obesity and diabetes are huge problems or even epidemic. But you didn't provide any evidence that all psyche meds cause insulin resistance as the article claims and neither does the article.

This is my opinion but it seems to me that stress, inflammation, and cortisol levels are much larger factors in contributing to and causing disease than psyche meds. Again, which psyche med, which disease, and what evidence?

Where is the evidence that psyche meds play a role if that is in fact true. Seems to me all the issues mental illness cause like stress would be the primary factor and not meds.


I can't find the posts so I guess they were pruned but Venus said in one post -
"I do not think stress causes disease but psyche meds do"

I asked for evidence to support that statement. She didn't provide any.

I don't think anyone can deny that mental illness causes a huge amount of stress for many people. You can find tons of real life testimony to that in the depression section alone. I provided some evidence on how stress, inflammation, and cortisol contribute to and cause disease. I am not saying they don't, but I am waiting for evidence that psyche meds cause disease.

C'mon! Your really trying to pass meds off as harmless? Really? Ssri and AP and lithium are known for tremors. Permanent if you take it long enough. I will remember the name in my sleep. You know better than to say iotrogenic illness doesn't exist (or to question it). How many people take meds to counteract side effects of other drugs? How many people get dx with bipolar after taking SSRIs even though they never had symptoms before? You're telling me benzodiazepines are harmless taken daily for years? You're telling me people that now have chronic depression despite never having it before weren't affected by the SSRIs they are taking for their grief?

I'm not going to dig for your proof if you're going to start with meds don't cause disease. You use yourself as an example a lot. Want to see some stories of other people? Take at antidepressant withdrawal forum site. The link is on beyond meds. You asked Venus for examples. I just gave you some. I asked sister "what diseases?" She basically avoided it and let you answer. Don't believe? Then don't. It's as much proof as you've given that despite years of taking meds genetics is the sole cause of your weight gain.

I remember Venus's post. It said something to the effect of they cause Illness. I don't think she said stress doesn't. She'll have to confirm if it got deleted. I shouldn't be speaking for her anyway.

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