I am not unwilling to look myself or have it pointed to me but I currently don't have the time either. I am golfing in a tournament and then going to the other side of the state for Mothers day. This is only possible because of my current psych meds btw.
I believe you have said on occasion that you believe in evidence based medicine.
I believe you have on occasion asked people to provide links to studies or some kind of evidence to back up what they are saying.
I believe I have always tried to provide links to reputable institutions when I am making a point.
It started with an article you posted. I took the time to read it.
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Are You At Risk For Diabetes and Obesity? If you’ve taken or take psychiatric drugs the answer is YES
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Since lots of people who’ve taken atypical antipsychotics have developed diabetes or are on the way to developing diabetes, it’s important for anyone with any metabolic issues that have been caused by psych drugs to know the information shared in the below video and the links I share. Also, it’s important to know that if you’ve taken psych drugs, you may have some of these problems without realizing it. These issues are societal wide but those of us who’ve taken psych meds have a substantially higher risk. Conventional medicine only diagnoses diabetes once the disease process has moved quite far along. So if you learn about the risk factors now you might be able to stop the process and get healthy and never develop diabetes!
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Many of us who’ve been on psychiatric drugs (really any psych drug) have insulin resistance even if we’ve not developed diabetes yet. It’s worth learning about even if you’ve not gotten to the point where your doctor calls your issues diabetes. The fact is, as this video speaks to, diabetes is a late stage in the disease process. If you catch it early enough you don’t have to develop diabetes.
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I thought the "any psyche drug" was a rather broad and bold claim. And although the article listed other related articles it didn't list anything related to that claim. I have heard that AP's and AAP's can cause metabolic issues and increase risk for diabetes and I don't doubt it is true. They wouldn't have made me get blood tests if it were not. I had been on Abilify two years I think and when they tested my blood sugar it was normal, both glucose and the other more accurate 3 month number (A1c I think). So I didn't worry about it much. Like I said, in
my case I do not think psyche meds have caused me much harm and I am willing to take the risks. The risks may be worth the trade offs for some people but actually developing diabetes would be a high trade off. I don't need AAP's and would rather not take them for a number of reasons. I agreed to take Abilfy not even knowing the risks.
In this thread I was more concerned about the stress caused by mental illness and what it might lead to. If meds work and alleviate that stress that may well outweigh any other risks caused by the meds. Simple point and the thread was meant for people to discuss their experience in relation to that.
What I do get a little upset about is when I say something in black and white and it somehow gets turned into something I didn't say at all. It happened to me twice in the last Fat thread and it has happened in this thread and it has happened before.
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Driving or flying across the country is fun to me. I love wandering around strange towns solo with my camera or camera phone. So should I judge you for finding it so stressful you stay on 85? No, of course not. So why are you doing the same for those that are concerned about weight and side effects?
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Huh??? What??? I never said a word or judged anyone for choosing not to take a med due to weight gain or other side effects. I was shocked when you said that and had no idea where you came up with it.
I believe it got pruned but, I created a hypothetical where a husband and father suffers a six month long severe depression and loses his job and went on to talk about all the stress this would cause and so on.
Venus turned this into me saying that "Unemployment is now a mental illness?" Huh??? What???? Where in the world did she get that?
Then in this thread.
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C'mon! Your really trying to pass meds off as harmless? Really?
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What??? Huh??? I never said any such think about them being harmless.
Your response to PoorPrincess.
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And that's what works best for you. I don't think I disrespected that. Are you saying others should not weigh their options differently?
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Huh??? What??? She clearly stated two times that is was a trade off for
herand said "And of course each person should weigh their options as they will." Where in the world did you get that she was saying that others should not weigh their options differently?
I spoke for you once and you did not like it at all. I don't like it when people point out something I said when I absolutely in no way said that.