[QUOTE=roads;3741667]I'm sorry, outlaw sammy--I don't see anywhere I mentioned AA, or "their BS," as you put it. . . .

Actually, you didn't mention AA, but whenever I encounter a person who publicly claims to be "an alcoholic," I sense the AA poison is in operation. Tell me that I'm wrong. The part of adding the descriptive assessment of "their BS" is purely my opinion. If I hadn't undergone treatment with a very experienced and insightful therapist (M.A., CAC III), then I'd still be wasting my time listening to propaganda, myths, and fairly tales perpetrated by fools with severe brain damage and ulterior motives.