Yes, it is semantics, but also good self care to use the correct words and "guilt" is not one of them I won't get into that discussion again now about taking responsibility, because first you have to accept the differences of words like guilt and shame and all. A high horses? No, it's a learning curve... it's good to realize this... not feel guilty because something caused you to do things you wouldn't normally? It could be a good discussion IMO if it weren't so subject to negative attacks to try and prove me wrong or you right...

for a person who is dealing with mental unwellness can't possibly realize these things... not by themselves,how can they? They are mentally unwell, not thinking logically, rationally and yet they are to take responsibility for their actions? I know plenty of mentally healthy " " people who can't do that.

no, I am not dancing in that minefield right now.

I never said words to mean that no one is ever harmed because of mental illness. I'm sorry anyone took that that way.

TC