I really am shocked at a thread where a person that has done that to another, spends the first paragraph of this thread slagging his wife off and only mentions what he has done to her after he's talked about that, and what a good father he is for sticking there - only he didn't did he! he was actually out with another woman. And then describes her finding out and him ending it with the affair to ' keep things neat and tidy' showing NO care or remorse for hurting his wife and lying to his family! Where has he taken responsibility??

Even in counselling he goes to with her, he doesn't say anything about any changes he has made, only the ones she has, and when things become rough again, he gets back in touch with the bit on the side!!

Can you people not see what I am challenging here?? He is not sorry. READ THE ORIGINAL POST! A psychologist would not see that as a remorseful man and I am sorry but nor do I and I don't think that someone shouldn't not be questioned and just given blind support to do that to his wife.

When I challenge him, he did not say that he felt sad or remorseful or hurt for what he had caused and what happened. He said his wife being fat had nothing to do with him because she was fat before he had an affair and he was a good father, he had taken responsibility and that was that. Where was the empathy and sorrow?

So don't attack me and I wont have to keep explaining what you all fail to see!

This is a support forum for victims of MH and abuse. He is not the victim here!

I tried to make my peace last night, but I will not be stood against him and be judged as the bad person here! I am speaking from the heart!

Everyone deserves forgiveness, but someone has to be sorry and doin the right thing! He is chatting to the affair and planning his next move and wants to be told that's acceptable! would you like it done to you?

If that is integrity and an honourable man, then why was clinton hounded out of office?

And tripping- telling me to find a different bridge, implying I should throw myself off it is not abusive - no? I find that quite hurtful and spiteful actually and especially as it is none of your business and I haven't insulted you or the other poster that I had to come back and defend myself against.