a few times .I e-mailed her and she was not supportive of that. so I have not done that much. in the 4 years I have called her about 4 times but she never called me back the last time. now I think that this is why it seems the dbt that is attached to this emotional regulation stuff says no contact when you are upset . that just seems so hurtful and just how my whole life is .is this how they teach people to with the horrible things.