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Old May 21, 2014, 10:47 AM
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I have a very good friend who recently got her second dui. She has flat out told me that she is a hard core alcoholic and I believe her. I have been around her enough when she is drinking to know. He lawyer advised her to jump through all the hoops and loops she needed to to get the lightest sentence. This meant going to AA before you are ordered convincing the judge you are serious about getting and staying sober etc etc. She does not like AA at all. She asked me to take her to meetings and a year a so ago once a week we went for like 8 weaks. The only part she really doesn't like is that they say the Lord's Prayer at the end of the meeting. I don't agree that they should do that even though it doesn't bother me. I don't agree with court ordered AA. It is a program of attraction not promotion, but he courts have adopted it.

She has jumped through the hoops and loops, went to a lot of AA meetings and came out ok legally. 8 hours of jail. She does not want to get sober yet but is looking at alternatives to AA. I can pretty much guarantee she will never be able to drink moderately and neither will I.

It is true that young attractive women are going to get hit on a lot (13th stepping) in AA. Relationships are used a lot as quick fixes. I believe if one is looking into AA as a solution they should really look at the philosophy as it is simply written in the books and see if if make sense to you. To see if you can relate to the alcoholism it talks about and that the members share. There is all kinds of sick behavior by members of AA because it is a bunch of sick people trying to work together to stay sober. You don't have to get all caught up in that. You could have only two or three friends within AA and be successful.

Luckily there are more programs out there with different philosophies that seem to have success. They are not near wide spread enough. My friend said she checked it all out and there is nothing locally and she is in a pretty urban environment.
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