@Newtus I think we have similar views on meds in that we don't like taking them. What I've been thinking is maybe the way to be off them is develop good coping strategies and find things to fill our days if we don't want to be on them. We have to find ways of coping rather than just do nothing if that makes sense. So maybe if you had some talking therapy you could find ways of managing your illness? I might be talking **** but it makes sense to me