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Originally Posted by Open Eyes
"again, I'm sorry. I'm rambling. I am sorry to hear you are struggling." quote ThisWayOut
Nothing to be sorry about, you are more than welcome to give your opinion and your experience, everything is welcome as everything is something to learn from.
I honestly can understand that even though one might take DBT, it might not change their "trigger" reaction to some kind of negative interaction or a reminder that brings them to a bad place. I agree that it is important to find the "wound" first and identify how it happened, be comforted when the reaction of having it aggravated takes place, until the patient can identify it and slowly understand it better.
I understand what you are describing, I have experienced some big triggers myself and I had to wait until they ran their course until my conscious mind could slowly figure them out. I have had challenges from other people in my family that hurt me, not because it was my fault, but because they were disordered somehow. Yes, using DBT doesn't always work when for example someone has compulsive ADHD and constantly talks over you, interrupts you, and cuts you off when you try to interact no matter what you say. That has been a "big" challenge for me, much more than I had realized too.
So, don't apologize, your input is important.
((Hugs))
OE
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Hm, I think the real difficulty with mental illnesses is, unlike with physical illness you cannot as easily take a blood test or do an Xray and see whatīs wrong. The mind is just so complicated!
Also, unfortunately I feel that psychologists still havenīt figured out what always helps best and thereīs a lot of controversy, itīs just a very difficult matter, the human mind.
I think too, that unfortunately a lot of therapists do "quick diagnosises" before really finding out about the history of their patient.
I experienced this a lot. Before I ever started to look for a therapist, I was pretty confident that pretty much all of them were good, able to diagnose and treat pretty much the same way. Because all had the same training (university degree etc)
Well, the uncertainty of therapists occured to me when I went to about 17 different, for try out, and every one of them was so different and had a different idea on what was "wrong" with me and how to treat it.
Itīs what I meant with unfortunately itīs not always easy to just "know" because the mind is so complicated.
I read books by Yalom and he said he was against diagnosises in general, because he said, even though it may seem clear at first, the longer you spend time with the patient, the more youīll find out about him and see it differently, because you find new keypoints...
I think probably both your therapists are right: people who have previously been challenged and did not receive proper nurtering as a child, are depressed or anxious or anything are more prone to develop PTSD, but itīs also often misdiagnosed...
I guess research just needs to learn a lot more about mental illness...
But yes, in the controversy between your 2 therapists, you can see how much therapists, trained and good therapists, still disagree about diagnosises and treatment.
I wish it was easier, too...
"I am a big proponent of people knowing what's best for them."
I like this. I guess youīll just have to listen to your gut!
Yes, itīs difficult. I experienced also some challenges when I was in an psychosmatic clinic and I felt some of the stuff wasnīt good for me at all, but anytime a patient disagreed with anything going on in the clinic, it was always the "patients illness" talking, not any mistakes of the clinic.
Well, unfortunately we cannot know for sure what will be best. But the good thing I guess that there is such wide range of therapies out there you can try...
I wish I could just leave the responsibility with my current therapist but I have to say that I have done a lot of things by myself that have helped me a great deal that I think someone else that didnīt have the same ideas as me still should be made aware of (