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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope
Because when you do selfish acts, and that includes selfish sexual acts, you make yourself depressed in the long run. That's why selfish sex is considered a sin in the bible. It's more then just a moral thing. I've been there, I've been selfish before on that and it always took me down a path of misery. Sex is not something to be played about with. You people think that something that is designed to create a life is something you can just mess around with. Do you see animals having constant sex or being constantly obsessed with sex like humans in ( especially western society) are?
The reason why gay sex is considered sin in the bible is because two men cannot reproduce and nor can two women. Sin means " to miss the mark". Two men/ two women who have sex cannot reproduce therefore it is missing the mark. Also the vagina and the penis both have nutrients that a man and women both give to each other when they have sex without a condom. A man having sex with another man cannot do that. I suppose they could both swallow each other's semen but it's not the same thing.
A man who constantly ejaculates and masturbates is depleting his life source, is risking mental and physical illness. This is not a myth, a man gives away a lot of minerals when he ejaculates. But the doctors don't want men to know that and encourage masturbation so you become depressed and they can sell you their useless and dangerous antidepressants.
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Animals masturbate. It has been observed in dogs, deer, horses, monkeys, goats, elephants, just to name a few examples. It's is also scientifically impossible to prove whether or not animals have sex for pleasure or for procreation. Obviously, they are hardwired to procreate, but it's impossible to truly tell if they have other underlying motives behind having sex or if sex is pleasurable. There have been studies on animal behavior that point towards animals having sex for non procreative reasons, like the fact that many animals do masturbate, have oral sex, rub genitals, have sex outside of their species, engage in sexual cannibalism and necrophilia, and of course, homosexuality. Your argument about using animals as a measure for sexual morality also falls short in terms of homosexuality. There are TONS of gay animals. It has been observed in over 1500 species of animals.
The idea that semen has nutrients in it that act as an antidepressant for women is also an urban legend. When two people have sex, they release a lot of oxytocin. Oxytocin is a chemical that will make two people feel connected, loved, and a deeper romantic attachment. Because of that, sex feels like it is injecting an antidepressant when in reality, the feel good part of it is just a release of the endorphins that already exist within the body and can in no way replace an antidepressant. They aren't even supposed to do the same thing. It is an urban legend that sounds like someone made up to get people to sleep with them without protection. But because the chemical that makes people feel good from having sex is oxytocin, it doesn't matter if the two people having sex are men or women or a man or a woman or wearing protection or not.
Masturbation on the other hand, does release some oxytocin but it isn't the same as when a couple has sex. Masturbation isn't depleting a life force or wasting nutrients. You can't waste all of your sperm away even if it did contain said antidepressants. Males produce sperm throughout their entire lives.
Masturtbation also has TONS of positive side affects like reducing the risk for cancer. It can make you depressed if you do it too much or if you are masturbating when you want to be having sex and you feel lonely and invalidated due to lack of sex, but the act itself doesn't make someone depressed.
Sin means to go against god. It does not mean "to miss the mark". Sin is an invention of religion. It is not something that exists in the natural world without the influence of religion. I'm not saying that to devalue anyone's belief in sin. It is really just a religious way to talk about the "objective morality" within their own religion. However, there really is no "objective morality" even within religion. People cherry pick the bible and decide for themselves which parts are "out dated" or "out of context" to the point where Christians have subjective morality just like the rest of the world. You can decide "sin" or "bad things to do" are whatever you believe them to mean.
Also, the mineral argument makes no sense on a few levels. Would it be selfish for me to NOT to bes super promiscuous or a porn star or prostitute and exchange minerals with tons of men?