I'm all for supplements, but as an adjunct to scientifically proven compounds. Modern medicine does have a bad habit of disregarding anything that doesn't have a patent on it. There really are some gems in the over the counter world, but I still take my lutuda religiously. Maybe it's just that lutuda has no side effects, but I don't have the slightest inclination to want to stop taking it, it's been a godsend for me.