Different things work for different people, Jan, but it's always worth trying stuff out

I also take some thermodurics sometimes to assist with fatburning when I exercise. have to watch out what is in them sometimes though esp if you are taking meds.

If anyone else has opinions ... share Like I said I'm not going to be right about everything I say working for everyone ... but I wish I had known some of these things (including how to read food labels) a long time ago ...