ha! I just posted a thread with this very same title yesterday. im kinda feeling down and hopeless myself. I didn't get too many responses. a few hugs. I typically don't pay much attention to my life, I just go through it day to day existing but I have been looking at it lately and seeing that I haven't come very far. it is frustrating. I suppose I could look at the fact that I am stable, I have a good job, nice people in my life, but I have no joy. I was suicidally depressed for 30 years before my breakdown 7 years ago. things got immensely better when I got on meds. im stable now. do I dare hope if they got better once they are going to improve again? id like to think so, but I don't know. I always held out hope that things would get better before and they did, so maybe they can again. I hope so for our sakes. take care.