ive done ouiji before and tarot. I had experiences that were paranormal, but the voices seemed to know what was happening when they could get the messages through to me. a good wiccan gave me a crystal and i used it incorrectly and it brought time distortions, vortexes, and made the whole house sick for a few weeks. ive talked to people who claim demons visit them and they like it, my experience was violent and scary, i hated what i heard.