Patty, do you belong to a Sam's Club? They used to have the ability to send you to a dealer that agreed upfront on the profit and such. I've bought pickups through them and always get a really good deal. You might check your local Sam's Club...... the salesman was totally honest with me. I faxed him a note on what I wanted and he took care of it. I never had to sit and wait for the "while I see what my manager can do on this for you" mumbo jumbo.......and I saved a good amount of money on both trucks.