JunkDNA I would say the second scenario fits with the current laws on forced treatment which I agree with even if I don't enjoy....if you're going to hurt yourself (or someone else) then yeah it's protective but this guy behind the yellow door well he was not dangerous to himself or others he just shut out society but he was physically healthy although delusional. He just fixated on the sun and painted everything yellow. I think the question in my mind was if you're at a point where you've gotten weird and aren't working or interacting with anyone is that enough where you would like forced treatment to return to your normal life or would you prefer to keep the laws how they are now and potentially spend your remaining years trapped in a delusion until you personally made the choice to get help. This of course gets complicated based on what you think your insight and your response to meds would be...