Reading bird pumpkin made me think even if we don't like our depression we have to own it and try to be assertive about it. It is not other people who has to determine our "normalcy". Paternalism is not helpful. We need more respect and credit as "patients". I know that there are people out of there that love us and want to help us. But somehow this desire of helping us often becomes an inclination to "fix" us. I find that is not respectful. Somehow, we have exercise the right to be as we are, despite that of course we may want to feel better or get rid of depression. I do not know if what I say makes any sense.