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Old Jul 11, 2014, 11:46 AM
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I think it is great you are trying to discuss religion and spirituality with your friends, did you do that earlier or do these friends just know "about" your previous experiences? Religion is basically group sharing about the spiritual in our lives, the going to Mass on Sundays like you did as a kid, etc. Spiritual is more individual, and while there is a broad range of beliefs, generally we stick with what we "know"/have been raised around. Yes, one can have a conversion experience and believe differently but usually that belief has to be translated into one's life experiences so others can see how it "makes sense" to your life. Going from vague, not much attention, to seeing entities in your house there is no "connection" there? Even conversion has a trail and future path, I think? My 2nd great grandfather, for example, "got religion" in the 1820's/30's as a teen in New Jersey (Episcopal to Methodist) but went on to get a fine education/job as a carpenter and travelled west, married, started a family and was a circuit preacher and farmer. His son and namesake followed in his footstep (but not my great grandfather, he became a lawyer instead and wanted nothing whatsoever to do with farming :-)

I think some of the danger of the spiritual for you at the moment, is that it is not "connected" to anything else in your life but things that turned out to all be in your "head"? We can think up anything and our imagination (thoughts) and feelings can play tricks on us if we do not check them out in the real world, with others. I am not saying others have to believe what you believe but the time and "effort" and interest others take in what we are interested in and how we apply it to our real lives, etc. does make a difference.

There are other ways to "make sense" of what is happening (you are "continuous" so what was in the past influences the future) besides the spiritual route. That you are looking at that avenue again when you had difficulties in the recent past, you might be overdoing that avenue, like I use to overdo my imagination. There are some pathways that are too familiar to us (habit) but which don't help us move forward, become like ruts instead of nice, paved roads. I would look for a less used path in my life and see if I could improve it for awhile, get more "skills" in that area (maybe "doing" rather than just thinking/feeling, for example) before I looked at a path that tripped me up earlier and how I would go about "fixing" those ruts?
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