my counseloor told me something really interesting one time - that to lose ones virginity they have to have intercourse. intercourse is defined as penetration into the vagina by the penis... So if a person has sex - oral, %#@&#!, or was masterbated they are still considered a virgine. I laughed because guys don't have a virgina so all these guys that are havingg sex together are still considered virgines and if a girl has sex with a girl they are still considered virgines because they are not having sex with a guy and his penis..Just something that I still am surprised about..