hi again there are a lots of ideas about forgiveness from religious ones to social ones ,i wish i had the answer ,ultimately we must forgive ourselves in this moment,as how can another person forgive us? priests were often the person you went to to unburden your sins ,do we need a third party in order to forgive ourselves maybe there is something in a trouble shared a trouble halved, do we ask too much of ourselves and others? i'm really with you with this one