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Originally Posted by CalmingOcean
That's basically it. But the thing is I don't feel like I have different people in my head... Different parts of me maybe. But I don't feel like they 'take over'. Yes I am very forgetful, like extreme I get that, and sometimes I will forget the question I am trying to answer after starting in to what I thought was answering it and have to ask her to repeat it. I know there is one side that really wants help for my baby boys sake, and one side that seems to think I am fine, and then of course little victim me that can't seem to ever find words to speak... But they are all me you see. I don't ever suddenly become 7 and want to play with dolls and color and forget, I don't have people say they know me by something different, I feel like I am me with different sides that everyone seems to have... I guess it's just the forgetfulness I often have but I thought that was just all part of dissociating.
Anyways, I am so confused and she is avoiding answering what she thinks is wrong. But she says we can't start EMDR treatment until all of me learns to trust her, and eventually, if she is a good therapist, all of my parts will integrate as one, and then she will know when I am sitting there and she is talking to me, that she is talkng to the actual me...
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EMDR here in america is a series of sessions, in a particular order which teaches the patient/client how to self calm self nurture when they are in distress...anxiety/panic.....
it consists of 8 phases....
the first one is when the treatment provider does an assessment of whether the person is ready to do the actual EMDR process. ....does the patient have the skills to stay calm, focused on the exercises, can they have discussions about traumatic memories without getting panic attacks, anxiety, feeling numb, spaced out,....if they cant stay in the present moment without major problems when discussing trauma, then doing the EMDR is not advised because it can cause a person more harm then good.
the second phase of the treatment is if the patient doesnt have the skills to self nurture/keep their self focused in the present moment, keep from having anxiety/numbness/ spaciness.... then this is the phase where they learn how to do that...example if the patient keeps feeling spaciness numbness then now is the time they learn how to ground their self back in reality so that they are not feeling numb, spacy, disconnected.
the third phase is discussing the trauma in great detail. let me give you a generic trauma related example....lets pretend for a moment I am afraid of dogs because I had gotten bit by one. during this phase I would have to tell the therapist about getting bit by that dog in great detail.... what the dog looked like, what I was feeling, about the actual biting, how it physically felt as that dogs teeth got me....short version its like reliving the trauma all over again, many times allowing your brain to process that truamatic event through your body and every one of your senses.
if someone is numbing their self, spacing out, disconnecting their self emotionally/mentally its just a waste time for the therapist and the patient because the brain wont do its job of processing that traumatic event. and worst the patient can end up suicidal or worse, psychotic/ stuck in the past literrally to where they are unable to be in the present and out of mental facilities. in short end up living their whole life time behind the locked doors of a mental ward because they were not able to reground their self out of their minds reliving the trauma, reground their self out of their dissociative symptoms...when this happens its not a good thing. At the hospital I work at there are many people who are psychotic/living in their past traumas/perceived dangers. not because of EMDR but because they just cant put their self out of that past moment..every day of their life is living in horrors of their minds rather than being out of the hospital.
Im guessing this is what your treatment provider is trying to do. she has assessed whether you are ready for the process (phase one of EMDR) and now she wants to help you learning tools/skills you need so that you can control, self nurture, bring yourself back out of your feeling numb, spacey, disconnected (phase 2 of EMDR) once you have mastered keeping yourself fully grounded, non dissociated then it will be time for you to move into phase 3 which is actually doing trauma work (retelling, processing the traumatic event)
4, 5 and 6 phases are part of this work. retelling the traumatic event many times along with exercises like moving your eyes, and body parts, and sometimes it involves hand held tools that vibrate or give a small electrical zap that is harmless like static electricity zap you get from taking freshly dried clothing out of a drier. Sometimes it involves retelling the traumatic event while tapping a place on your body.....
the last 2 phase, 7 and 8 of EMDR is ending the sessions. having the patient continue using the EMDR process on their own. reporting back to the therapist on a schedule of sessions some meet weekly some as little as monthly, to check in on how things are going and any problems that have arisen in doing the process.
Once the process of EMDR is over that patient has the tools/skills they need so that they no longer need therapy for that problem any more. they can terminate with their therapist and go on living their life just like any other normal person does without having that traumatic event causing them problems anymore.
my suggestion continue working with your therapist, they know the speed at which you will be able to go through this process. eventually you will get to the point where your PTSD related dissociative symptoms wont interfere with the process. (Here in america under the new DSM 5, PTSD now includes those dissociative symptoms you have posted here and in other threads, canada may have other standards, my writing ......PTSD related dissociative symptoms.... is just using the wording of my location.)