Lizardlady I agree but it was so bad that I couldn't do that to him. Its my fault I've always done everything for them. I had to do everything growing up and it's just followed me into adulthood. Not to mention the guilt I feel if anyone cleans my house, but that's a whole other issue. My big mistake but thankfully I realized I wasn't teaching them anything by doing it for them. But it's not to late. Now that it's clean I've made sure he knows it's his responsibility to keep it that way. Same with my daughters room once I finish hers. They're still kids and will need to be reminded but I'll keep on them to clean up after themselves and eventually it will just become a habit. I hope! Lol.