Secret Garden, I think some of what you say was partly the problem.....she made no attempt to understand where I was coming from...and I ended up shaming myself for even thinking that I deserved to be understood....this does touch of deep feelings of being misunderstood...last night I managed to re feel the shame and rage I felt yesterday at work and put those feelings to another incident way back in my early life and it matched...I hope to create the feelings again in T on friday because I feel this is core issues stuff for me.....I never felt the rage and shame back then because aged 5 there was no where to go with it...