yeah I remember one closing old roll calls but I'm not sure if they ever showed up on the mod panel or if they just showed up as a member slightly to the left---I just thought they were filling in because of that and hadn't like committed or whatever...but yes that is in fact why I asked the well why we had a mod now etc because I was wondering if we had just scared off the old ones This is kind of horrible but I previously saw long ago one of the liasons deterring someone from coming to this forum...a parent maybe---it was before the partner/caregivers etc. I think. So I always kind of wondered and see this place as a secret garden beyond the barbed wire and keep out signs....