My previous t has 4 grown daughters, so i guess he had this talk with all of them: he told me that men are ALWAYS going to try on a first date, just to see if they can get it. I yelled at him, i said that was a horrible trick - and he just said, well thats the way it is. I said, then how do we know what they really want? And his answer was, "what do YOU really want?"

Its like we are playing the super bowl and theyre still in little league, for the importance we each attribute to it.