I don't disagree with what your saying.. it's not right.. but for me it wasn't a notch on the board.. Bit cliché. .. heh I was hurting on the inside honestly... I had my addictions to make up for it... I did what it took to have that sense of relief... which in a twisted way was sex and the conversation that got me there.. honestly I enjoyed the conversation as much as the sex... I guess deep down I was trying to get these girls in bed with me but starting out it was just conversation and chatter.. fill that sense of loneliness... maybe that's what helped me.. I often spent most nights hanging out with a gal I met at the bar... we'd hangout and drink... and by the end of the night I wouldn't have to hardly try to talk the girl into it honestly I didnt have to ask much and never asked twice... it was on a college campus.. bigger city and most of the girls obviously weren't from around here.. it was several different situations but none the less it wasn't right.. and i do agree with ya.